We listen to music when we are in the car, we listen to music when we are cooking, we listen to music to fall asleep when we're feeling lively, happy, or sad. Indeed, music does make the world go round. And there's also one more thing that music dived into, it's the world of music therapy.
Humming to the tune is Melissa Sommers, a board-certified music therapist and founder of Meli Music. Melissa's introduction to the world of music therapy happened at a very young age because of her younger sister who had a brain tumor. They formed a very unique and strong relationship through the help of music which calmed her sister down on the toughest of days. Melissa has been passionate about using music to support others using the unique power and connection of music.
After working for years for other clinics, I realized I was feeling burnt out from working with the same age range all day. I wanted to diversify the clientele I services and benefited from music therapy. I stepped away and structured Meli Music to support pre-birth to end of life and all stages in between. I really enjoy supporting the various groups of people throughout my week!
What makes your business unique?
We are a team of board-certified music therapists, located in Los Angeles and Chicago, but now providing services globally through Telehealth.
What impact do you want to have in the world or change you want to see or make happen?
I would love to educate everyone on Music Therapy so it is as integrated into services like physical therapy, speech therapy, or occupational therapy. I would love to continue educating our communities on the power of music!
Are You Happy with your business, What makes you happy, And What Would You Change?
I am incredibly happy with my business so far! I love connecting with my staff who are as passionate about the work as I am, and the community. I feel like a music therapist, I get as much out of sessions as my clients.
Did You Experience Failures? If So, What Did You Learn From Them
Failures have been overworking myself and losing sight of the big picture outside of being a business owner. I am very motivated and ambitious, and sometimes that clouds my abilities to be in the moment with the ones I love.
How Did You Handle Adversity And Doubt?
I love to think of karma in being you receive what you give, and flipping the perspective to view challenges as opportunities of growth, and take away the positive from each situation. There have been moments of doubt, but I have been able to use those moments to reach out to the community even more intently, and it has always been warmly received.
Do You Plan On Growing Your Business? How?
YES! I have a big vision of being a music therapy company that provides services across the globe through Telehealth, but growing with in-person sessions as well. I started out as myself in Los Angeles, and now I have 5 employees in LA, 1 intern, 1 admin assistant in Wisconsin, and in the process of hiring my first employee in Chicago, where I live. I would love to see the Chicago team grow to be the size of the LA team, and then possibly branch into another city.
Do you think self-love and trust are important in running a successful business? Why?
Absolutely! There have been so many times that I have trusted my gut or instinct. If I didn't, I would have faltered so many more times. Even if the decision didn't pan out how I was hoping, if it came from a place of self-love and trust, I had no regrets.
What advice would you give someone who is interested in starting their own business?
Patience and passion.
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Trusting your intuition will lead you to create a passionate and joy-filled life. Are you ready to get turned on to a new way of thinking? Are you ready to meet people who have conversations that speak to the things that truly light you up? What if you had access to a podcast that featured women, just like you, who shared stories that empowered you to let go of a lifetime,
to others' expectations and to start living in the now with passion and joy, I'm Jacqueline Rodriguez, founder of your intuitive light coaching owner of enlightened styles, holistic salon, and your host of the intuitive light podcast for the enlightened entrepreneur. My goal is to help women recognize how tightly they are tied to negative thoughts and other people's expectations so that they can fully embrace and become the untethered CEO.
They've always wanted it to be. You're about to meet some amazing women who will inspire you to untether yourself from any fears, the negativity that you carry, and become the untethered CEO of your life. This podcast is for you woman champion, warrior entrepreneur, mother phenomenon, Oh, back to the intuitive life podcast. I am your host, Jacqueline Rodriguez, and I am so excited about this week's guest.
Her name is Melissa Summers and she is a board-certified music therapist with Mel music. And we have had some amazing conversations. And I just can't wait to go ahead and hop in and let her explain to you, you know, what she does and how amazing she's been able to really help people. So without further ado here is Moses. Hello. Thank you so much for being here.
I absolutely loved our conversation and I just cannot wait for everyone to hear your story. I'm really excited to be here as well. So thanks for having me. Yes, it was my pleasure. And I'm sure everyone's going to be so excited to just hear, I mean, you know, the first thing we do want to hear is all about you and how you got into this.
So tell us, so, um, as you mentioned, I am a board-certified music therapist, so well, we'll start my story back, you know, with that journey and then transitioned into being a business owner. So I started playing the piano at the age of four. Um, like most children, I just had an affinity to music connected with it and kind of took off.
Um, when I was eight years old, my family had another child, so they had their fourth child, my youngest sister, um, and pretty quickly after she was born, we realized that there was something a little bit different about her. Um, and we discovered that she was born with a brain tumor. So basically like it was, this was her brain and this is the tumor.
Um, and what that taught me through the three and a half years that she was with us was the power of music because whatever was going on in her day, the consistent thing that she always connected to at the end of the hardest of our days was me playing the piano. And at the age of eight and nine and into 10, I really quickly discovered I had to start with her preferred music and had to be added intensity,
which is what she was feeling. So if she was angry, then music tended to be a little angrier. And then after a period of time, she would start to calm down and rock to the beat of whatever song I was playing. And then that's when again, eight, nine-year, 10-year-old music lesson, Melissa could take over and start practicing my lesson material.
Yeah. So she passed away when I was in fifth grade. But what that gift gave me was, as she gave me this beautiful gift of showing me the power of music and how important and meaningful it can be. So that kind of put me on my path to be a music therapist. I picked the one state school I grew up in Wisconsin.
So I picked the one state school in Wisconsin that offered music therapy as a major, I didn't know about it going in. Um, so freshman year, the first week of class, I was in music theory of some sort when we were going around sharing what our majors were and the student in front of me shared her major was music therapy. And I tapped her on the shoulder and I said,
we need to talk. Cause I declared a major of music ed with an emphasis in special ed. So I was trying to create it. Um, and so at a spry young, 18 years old, the first decision I ever made without consulting by parents was going straight to the registrar's office and changing my major right then and there. Cause I knew that was my path.
Um, so as soon as I completed my coursework, um, I to become a music therapist, you have to complete a six-month internship or 1200 hours. So I completed my internship in Madison, Wisconsin, and then thinking I was done with the Midwest and the snow, and all of that packed my bags and headed out West to Los Angeles. And I worked in the pediatric population for quite a few years cause that's where my passion from was with my sister.
But I realized I was starting to get really burnt out, uh, singing children's songs. And I was feeling that my presence in the clinical space was stale. I wasn't excited to be connecting as much as I felt I should be. Um, and also I was working for a nonprofit, um, and I was hired on just as a music therapist and worked my way up to being the head of the creative arts department.
Um, so I was realizing, I was feeling a little stuck with the clientele that I was servicing. Um, but then also being in middle management, I, I was really finding more times than not struggling with decisions, um, or thinking, you know, like, Ooh, but I wonder if we did it this way, this would be a cure.
Like, I'd be curious to know how it would go. You know, so all of those kinds of thoughts on having to, you know, fulfill the expectations of somebody else. Um, and then I had also just completed my master's degree from Colorado state university in neurologic music therapy. So I had all of these new skills and this new sense of confidence and zest in my,
in my career that I stepped away and started Melly music and um, 2013 inch. Um, and I say ish because, um, is that we are a service-based company, I was taking on private clients on nights and weekends outside of my full-time job to build up and gain momentum. So then when I quit the job, I stepped into essentially enough hours to make a living off of it.
So it was a lot of, you know, hard work at the beginning. Um, but it paid off. So started the company in 2013, out in Los Angeles, and fast forward to 2020, we are a company that services all ages and abilities pre-birth, um, to end of life. And there are six employees out in Los Angeles on end.
We have our first employee in Chicago, which is where I am now growing the company, um, and an admin assistant in Wisconsin. And we have our first intern music therapy intern through telehealth who actually lives in Maryland. So we've kind of become a little more nationwide over the last few years as well. That's amazing. And I want to backpack a little bit in your story.
Cause something came up to me that you've said like that you ish started your business. Um, well in that same sentence, like you were talking about how you were stuck in this middle management and you, you had to make these big decisions, but they weren't, you were final decisions. Yeah. You couldn't go in the direction that you all possible with all this new knowledge and all these things that you were doing.
Am I right? Absolutely. And that is a key point for anyone listening. Like we all have had that. And maybe right now, if you're listening and you have been feeling that way where you've climbed the ladder, but you know that there's more and they, you can make a bigger impact and a bigger difference in this world that is huge.
And that is what I coach to so much that we can, we can go Baker and it is a scary thing to do, but I just am so excited that you shared that with us because we all go through things like that. And it's such a key point to realize that it can be scary. There's a lot to go on with it and you do have to kind of do it on the side.
That's how I started my business. You have to build the business that you want while you're doing a full-time business. And it's not always the easiest thing to do, but it is very possible. And I want to ask you, like, in that time of your working, you know, management, you want to build this other business. What is something that kept you going even through the really hard times to want to continue to build that business?
That's a great question. Um, I think ultimately it was that entrepreneur in me that was so excited about what that future might look like and really just keeping that dream as my, um, like my fuel to push me through reporting a lot and not a long day, you know, kind of that getting my feet wet in that hustle also because there's a lot of,
um, it's interesting because as a business owner now, I feel like sometimes it's hard to disconnect sometimes from that networking in that business mindset, you know, I have a personal phone and I have my work phone and I got my work phone with the intent of, well, when I'm done, I'll turn it off and I'll step away. But it's with me all the time.
Um, but it's because I'm so passionate and so excited about the work that we do and the company that I'm building and growing and, um, knowing the support that we're providing our community and how beneficial music therapy is for all of our clients and clients that we don't even service yet. Um, but there's just that passion. Um, that's really been the fuel this whole time.
And from that passion, because you knew there was something more that you were here to provide. Absolutely you couldn't do at your current job. So anyone listening, if you feel that passion if that is something that, you know, resonates with you, you're ready for more, you are totally ready for more. And there are ways to do both and to start getting that passion going so that you can feel fulfilled daily.
Um, and one of the things that I do is help women go it, but with a lot more ease than the stress that we're used to, right? All that hustle. I hate the word hustle because when I started it was like, yeah, I'm a hustler. I'm just getting it done. Now I'm more aligned with everything that I have to do and we can make it a lot easier.
I mean, there's always going to be ups and downs and all that craziness and there are longer hours sometimes, but finding the flow is a beautiful thing because as an entrepreneur keep working and keep going, and that's exactly how I was too, but I'm just so happy that you found that and you followed it because you're making huge change and impact on so many people's lives.
And it's such beautiful things. Thank you for sharing that part. And I think another key point also to kind of mention within the journey too, is I started the company with nothing and no investments, no loans. Um, I kind of gathered, it was probably similar for you as well, but I was by myself for like the first year gaining momentum and contracts and clients.
And then I, I got to that point of realizing if I want to continue growing, I have to bring somebody in. So I brought in an independent contractor, um, and then one thing led to the next and to the next. And before I moved from Los Angeles to Chicago, the whole company structure changed from a DBA essentially to an LLC. So now it's the corporate involvement with that and the title and all of that stuff.
And everybody's w two employees. And so that's been really fun too. And I think too is, I am, uh, I'm a busy body. I'm a go-getter. So I like mange. Um, it's funny because my therapist, cause if you don't have a therapist, highly recommend move one for everybody. Um, but she's complimented me a few times on how quickly I integrate change and how flexible I am.
And I don't think that that's necessary for a business owner, but I think that personality trait in myself is what keeps me, um, intrigued and keeps me wanting to keep growing because there are so many more things to learn and to integrate and to adapt. And that's the stuff that I enjoy. We are on the exact same wavelength. I, I,
this is X. That is me. I am a go-getter. I literally have so many projects going on at all times. Not because I'm trying to create problems for myself, but it is what fuels my passion and keeps, I think for me, it's been harder to learn how to slow down, how to take more self-care, which for me,
it wasn't necessarily a therapist, but energy work. Yeah. I, I have done a ton of energy work. I continue to get energy work on and really focusing on my meditation being okay with being inward, like really diving in deep to what fuels me and taking that time to center myself and slow down a bit and see which one of those amazing projects that we've got swirling around our heads is the right timing.
Um, so that's so for you, which is amazing for me, it was more of the energy work and mutation, but that type of, um, an entrepreneur that we are, it's not necessary. There are plenty of entrepreneurs that have one track and that's what they do. And that is amazing for them. But for us, I remember listening to,
you know, a lot of entrepreneurs and they're like, no, you can only work on one thing at a time. I'm like, but that's not how I function. And that makes me sad. And what I love is that you brought that up too. And we get to say, it's okay. This is what fuels us. That doesn't mean that we have to be like everybody else.
And other people don't have to be like us. There's the path for each and everyone, One of us. And It took me a while to learn that because I wanted it to be like everybody else. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I have to just do one thing. And I was so sad because that's just not who I am. No meaning they're all good.
We can support each other in that. But I love that, you know, your journey and everything has brought you here. And the profound change that you have made with growing this beautiful business each and every person that you have hired is also affecting so many people. And then, you know, each and every client that you work with also affects so many people.
So this ripple effect that you have Is just amazing. And I Can't wait for us to get into, like, how does that change? Cause I know for me, music is it brings me back to a specific time. It can pump me up or calm me down there so much that it can do for us. And I love how you integrate that with therapy
because I truly believe even when I was in school, I was like, can you just put some of this education into a song? I'll remember it. Uh, cause I remember lyrics from songs that I've been heard in over 10 years, and I can go along and tell you every single one of them. Yup, absolutely Incorporate that whole therapy and the music together to help your clients.
Great question. Um, so I'm gonna, I'll get to that, but I'll step back a little and explain just kind of like what music therapy is, um, find out who a music therapist is and all that stuff. So within music therapy, everything that we're doing is evidence-based and the primary focus is on the non-musical areas of need. So while we're integrating music and everything is music-based within a within music therapy session or music therapy work,
I'm not necessarily looking at somebodies ability to sing in tune or to integrate a rhythmic pattern I'm looking at, are they able to take this music information and maybe notice a difference and then adjust in themselves to modify their engagement? Because instead of thinking about them singing a certain melodic line or what have you, I'm looking at, okay, they're noticing a change,
they're integrating it, they're modifying their response. And then they're, they're creating an external reaction, which is sustaining our relationship. So Other ways that we, you know, so it's interesting because everybody thinks something slightly different than with what music therapy is. Um, I think the most unique thing was in undergrad. I had a friend say, well, do you give therapy to musicians who don't make it?
Yes, Technically. Yeah, we could, but that's not our focus. Um, so you know, everything is evidence-based and what's great with all of the evidence and the research. Um, and what we're finding is that music has the ability to be processed everywhere in our brains. So, with my master's degree is in neurologic music therapy. And basically what that means is it's taking a close look at how the brain functions and then it's doubling the next step is where music is processed in the brain.
And then wherever there's an overlap, then that's possibly clinical justification for a music therapy assessment. So we always start with an assessment, figure out what the needs are. And then we put together a treatment plan and then we need, we design measurable goals to track along the way. Um, but I do have a really pretty graphic. Um, so it kind of supports that idea of how music is processed everywhere in the brain.
So the top brain picture is kind of what the stereotypical idea of what our brain does. So the left side is, um, that's when rolling and more described as being analytical, more logical, the right side is more creative, more empathetic, and below is where certain properties with music are processed. So the big, huge, important takeaway is listening to music with rhythm and melody automatically activates both sides of your brain.
Pretty cool. The second way is music is essentially processed in every nook and cranny of your brain. So if you think of an individual that, you know, a great example is let's say a parent with dementia or Alzheimer's. And if we think of that diagnosis as like a roadblock in the brain, what music is able to do is music is able to create bridges or take detours or go the back way because of all of those elements that are present,
create slightly different, um, information and pathways in our brain. So we're able to access the language part of the brain, but in a different way than normal speech and communication. So that's why you see on YouTube, um, look like a live documentary of an older adult, putting on headphones and instantly just comes to life and sing songs again and knows all the words,
kind of like what you were referencing, um, a little bit here as this, because when you're listening to music, it's not stored in just one place because of all those elements it's stored in all these different places of our brains all at once. So it's able to tap into that. Um, so it's pretty cool. That's super cool to see
because we're not taught this. This is not something that we are taught the difference of. I mean, when you said that it can help and it creates bridges for people who have dementia and stuff like that. I mean, I got full-on shows because we feel a loss when things like that happen and for there to be something to still connect them with you and with the families.
I mean, I don't know exactly how all that works, but it just gave me full-on chills to know that this is the type of impact you're having. Yeah, well, and um, the next slide that I have a hook is another great visual about how music is processed in our body and in our systems. So the various systems that we have,
um, so you can kind of see as the different systems. Um, but I've been in hospital rooms with individuals that have been all sorts of machines, but through, you know, an hour of music therapy, I've seen their blood pressure decrease. I saw their heart rate regulate their oxygen saturation levels increase. Um, but also, you know, music is shown and more research is being developed in,
um, in support of this, but you need less pain medication post-surgery if music therapy is presence, um, and it helps decrease some signs of anxiety and depression, um, help with fatigue. So these are all things that I think a typical business owner has experienced in the path of owning a business is someone's life. You definitely fatigue. Um, you know,
sometimes there's depression with just all of the multiple things that you're juggling all at once. Um, and in our case the many, many, many more cause we, um, but you know, the takeaway is that music is really powerful and we all connect to music, um, in so many different ways. And it's so unique. So when I was,
um, in my coursework to become a music therapist, a lot of this is what I gained in my, um, my master's level education, um, which right now, as it stands, the profession of music therapy is a bachelor's level entry. Um, and we're in this unique, this conversation of trying to increase it so that it's a masters-level entry profession.
Um, so I have my board certification. So I mentioned I did my internship in Madison, Wisconsin. So that's, so after you complete your coursework from an accredited, um, program from the American music therapy association, you complete a six months or 1200 hour internship, um, set for your board certification exam, which if you have any test anxiety,
as I do is a very stressful experience. Um, and then again, because everything that we're doing is evidence-based and, and research-based, we want to ensure best practice so that what we're doing at the moment is supportive of the most recent research. So every five years we have to submit, um, continuing education credits to maintain our certification. Um,
and then we have standards of practice or, um, you have standards in the practice code of ethics, um, that we abide by as well. So, um, there's a little more to it than saying, Oh, you just play music. There's a lot more to it. These impacts that you're having and the chain you can actually bring with something like music.
Um, I love that you have to keep up with the education because change so fast. And I mean, I know that, um, you know, I'm board-certified with cosmetology and I had to go through that same, Oh my God, the testing, the one physical that I had to do fine. It was the sit-down and learn all of that again,
if I would have had it all in music, I would have been able to just put it out there quickly. Um, but that's just not how it worked. So keeping up with all of that education, keeping up with the things at the moment is so important. Cause things changed so incredibly fast. I think it's wonderful. Yeah. I mean,
look at, so we're July and you know, in the middle of this pandemic, things are changing by the minute. It seems like. So within professions and research, it's really important. Um, and another really great thing to mention too, um, is the whole profession of music therapy started in the fifties after the World Wars, where they were realizing when musicians were in hospitals or,
or initially they were brought in for morale and, you know, just kind of helping that friends. But what they realized was, was when music was present, that individuals were working longer or were engaging for longer periods of time on their rehab goals, led to research, showing and supporting when your brain hears two steady beats, it automatically anticipates the third and your motor cortex is lit up and activated.
So that's why a little, six months old on the floor, you put on a steady song. One of the first things that they do is they start off into the beat and that is hard-wired to respond, to read them. Um, and then I think with them is such an important piece because we think of rhythm and we think external rhythm.
A lot of times we have that association as somebody else's imposing rhythm in the song and the new in the train to that beat. But one thing that I've learned through all of my years in working with people is to recognize my own rhythm and to realize that my rhythm tends to be a little faster because I like to be busy. My grandmother is Italian, so lots of talking and at fast speeds.
Um, but aside from that, I move my, my physical rhythm. As I, you know, I moved pretty quickly throughout the day. I tend to make decisions rather quickly, not impulsively, not gonna stay impulsively, but rather quickly. Um, and I vibe with people whose rhythm or compassion. So my sister on the other hand tends to have a slower with them.
So I know when I'm about to have a phone call her or have any, you know when we're able to, I mean, face to face contact with her, that's just something I go in knowing that I'm going to have to modulate my rhythm a little bit and match hers a little more. And I think that that's true with all of our relationships is we,
we make relationships based on people whose rhythm is compatible with ours. Um, and that can also make or break relationships too. But, you know, as business owners, when we're talking to potential clients and we're talking to potential partners, um, colleagues, what have you, that's something that definitely to keep in mind is first and foremost, figuring out what your own rhythm is,
you know, and a lot of that's just reflecting on how you move through the day. Um, how organized do you like to be? Is another sign that you know, like the more organized you like the city might imply maybe a little slower with them. Um, I, as I said, I was going to say the organization, this is just one thing that I did not have growing up.
I have gotten better, but I still, it's not. And as a business owner, like people, when you are looking for outside validation and you're looking at what everybody else is doing, and you see all these people like super organized, I was like, Oh man, I'm never going to make this thing. Like, I can never do that,
but it's okay. Cause, we have different rhythms and I love what you're saying. Cause it's so, so true. We do have to be very cautious about how we when we're talking to a client, we've got to match their pace. And I, that's something I've been taught in sales and just in being an entrepreneur, like to match the pace so that you can really connect with them.
And when I'm connecting with a client or anyone around me, especially, you know, especially for entrepreneurship, I really try to match their pace. But because I'm so I'm energetic, I do also really try to connect my energy. All of that around me helps focus and, and connect with them more and also show them that I'm, I'm listening and then I'm intently like trying to be there for them.
Um, and I think that's super important too, to match pace as I do go kind of, you know, Energizer bunny speed. I am guilty of that a few times as well, but you know, on the reverse too, to now maybe you do have a slower mid them and somebody that you're engaging with might have a faster them. So,
you know, to just be aware of that reverse do is, you know, that's where maybe listening to what I coined a power playlist of your big songs in your pump, me at songs, in your I'm, the queen of the world type songs might be a good resource to tap into to increase your energy a little bit and increase your rhythm a little bit.
So, yeah, that's a fantastic idea even on days where, I mean, I'm super fast-paced, but if I'm having an off day and I'm just not in the mood or that is a great resource to be able to tap into that when you're just not feeling it either. Absolutely. Yeah. I know whenever my rhythm is off, that's also kind of when I,
and maybe it's just me thing, but I feel when my rhythm is off, I'm more clumsy. I trip on words more and literally trip on things more. That's me, I almost feel sometimes it's my body's way of saying, take a breath, slow down, and then I'll connect to music. That's a little slower and a little more regulating or grounding for me.
Um, but again, knowing, you know, my connection with music is so unique. Those songs are the songs that are grounding and calming for me. And those are on my grounding playlist, but those songs may be very different than your grounding playlist or, you know, from anybody. So another great thing is because music is so unique and there's hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of songs and it's, we're not supposed to like all songs. So being able to tap into and knowing what songs are your go-to for certain emotions and, you know, creating those emotional playlists is a great tool to figure out what you're feeling. Cause I know I've had days where I get in my car after a meeting or I get in my car after a session and I don't know what I'm feeling.
So I have to toggle through a few playlists until like, Oh, there it is. That's what I want to listen to. And then I can rock that full playlist on my drive home. And then when I'm home, I'm ready to be that that whole light bulb moment went off for me because I, I, I really do help people figure out which emotion they're connecting energetically with,
but I never thought about connecting that with music. And it's so true if I don't know how I'm feeling or if I just am kinda not, not paying attention, I will skip through like songs that I know I liked, but I'm like, no, no, no. Oh, this one's it. And having a playlist with that emotion. That's brilliant.
Yeah. It's um, since the whole pandemic started, I've facilitating music and wellness, weekly webinars for one of the, um, the community support groups here in Chicago. And one of the main things I keep circling back to when those webinars is encouraging everybody to develop their emotional platelets. Um, and it's, you know, with Spotify or, um,
YouTube music or Apple music, or, you know, there's a lot of streaming resources now for low fees per month, um, where you can really quickly, as you're just listening to a song like, Ooh, I like that one. It makes me feel whatever. And then you can just quickly add it to the playlist. Um, and then before,
you know it, two weeks from now, you can have all these robust playlists that can be really great tools. I'm completely gonna make that so excited cause I never put two and two together. That's really brilliant. And that can help you, especially when we're, again talking back about entrepreneurship with all of those ups and downs, it's a roller coaster.
And if we know, cause sometimes we do have to, you know, muster through things that maybe we're not in the mood or feeling it, but if we have that playlist to rely on and we also have the other tools of being able to meditate or do different modalities of getting yourself in that right space, using all your senses right there, you can have something to start getting yourself back into that headspace that you need at the moment.
Absolutely. And as an entrepreneur that is like gold because we can't be on all the time and we can't, we have all of these other things that come up, but sometimes we have to be on whether we like it or not. And I always encourage you to start with your power playlist. Oh yeah. That's yeah. That's going to be a really easy one to create.
Cause it's all your Anthem pumped me up. I'm unstoppable songs and that's going to be an easier one to create. So you'll have success creating that one, but it's also one that you're going to probably tap to the most as a business owner, you know, before you go into that, that, you know, proposal or that new meeting or that new opportunity or whatever to tap into that playlist.
And you know, you're wearing your AirPods right now. I'm set up all externally. But our society is so accepting of people, listening to music anywhere you are. So it's something that's really accessible and any minute too, so you can literally be listening to whatever that song is until like you take your AirPods out and you're like, Oh, hi, I'm Jacqueline,
you know? Yes. And it's funny cause my son walks around with one air pod All the time. Yeah. He, he's funny about that. Like he, cause he works for me. He edits all my videos and I'm like, okay, when you're working, you're working like, you know, I gotta know that you're listening. So all I need is that signal of okay,
take the air pod out so that I know you're listening. Um, but I think that that's funny cause I walk around all the time with my AirPods and I'm, I'm listening to podcasts, I'm listening to music, I'm listening to I'm in classes, myself for certification. So sometimes I'm just listening to my class. Like we got so many things going on and it really has been very normal until you start talking back and then people were like,
Oh, are you, are you talking to me? Cause you can't say, especially when my hair's down, But it's, it's funny that you say that. Cause he really does walk around with just one airport and he's always listening to something. And I know when we first had our discussion, I remember you saying that like even, cause I brought this up about him working and wanting to listen to music or doing homework and listening to music and you did tell me that there are certain things that you can listen to that will open one part of your brain.
Like if you're doing math, you can listen to one thing, or if you're doing English because I cannot read and listen to music like I don't know. But you did say that there are certain ways to actually help you. And I know as an entrepreneur if I have to focus on something, but maybe it's not really resonating with me. Like what are some things that you could recommend that we could listen to and tap into that?
Yes. So my personal favorite genre, um, that I have gone pretty much anytime I'm in my office, aside from when I'm in a music therapy session, The genre is electronic chill. Okay. Yes. Basically what it is is it's kind of a little more of like the electronic side of music. Um, but it's very chill where it's the perfect music that you can listen to and have on the background at like a dinner party or it's the type of music that I love because it's,
it has enough of a beat in rhythm to keep me alert, not too busy to distract me. And the other thing is there are no lyrics. So When I was sharing that diagram of the brain, what's really interesting is when you're listening to music with lyrics, whether you know the lyrics or not, whether it's even in a language you speak or not,
our brains are really powerful. So as soon as their brain recognizes li language and words, it automatically starts trying to figure out, is it a language? I know if it's a language, I know what are the lyrics? What are they saying? Are they statements? Are they questions? Are they thoughts about what's going on? And then do I have a reaction?
Do I have a response emotionally? How do I feel? So without even realizing it, all of those parts of our brain are engaged. When we're listening to songs with lyrics, restaurants know these stores know this. So if you think about, when you go to eat, let's say you go to a chain restaurant, what type of music is typically playing at those restaurants?
Like the top 40? Like there's always that type of music going on. But if you go to a really nice like Michelin star restaurant, what type of music is playing classical very low? No, I put that two and two together because of their focus, the first chain restaurant, their focus is turnover. They want the profit, they want you out of that chair.
So the next people can sit there at that table. So they don't want you to get too comfortable at a nice restaurant. They want you to order another bottle of wine. They want you to write that raving review. They want to wine and dine you. And it's about the experience. So stores do the same thing. If you go shopping right now.
Well, careful where you go shopping right now, pandemic, let's say, you know, the type of music that a store is playing is probably just background radio. What have you? But at the holiday time pumping all the holiday music, which holiday music in and of itself tends to be very busy in Jangli and Raleigh and very of twos like in your face.
And it's always a little louder at the holiday times because again, their focus is wanting you to make that impulse buys because you're just overwhelmed. The store's busy, the music is loud, everything is just overwhelming. They want you to make that impulse buys and they want the dollar because they know they're busier. So they want to capitalize on those opportunities. So,
you know, restaurants and stores use music all the time. Um, so why, why should it with, with when we're doing our business, right? That's I mean, I never put, I knew, I, I hear all of that. I never really realized that there was, um, a reason behind all of it. Yeah. And,
and these places are smart. I mean they know, I mean colors and it all makes sense because even the color of a restaurant versus, um, a high-end restaurant and, um, you know, a faster-paced restaurant right there, the color schemes are different and everything makes sense, but it really is kind of like a little light bulb moment that they even use the music.
And I've noticed with myself going into these places, the effect it does have on you. Absolutely. I'm going to have to be super careful about what I use at the salon because we want that higher end. Uh, but I also don't want to put people to sleep. Cause I thought about putting on like very natural, you know, um, meditative music,
but then we're all like dead asleep. So we'd say personally all of that meditative stuff with the nature element tied in, I personally get anxious. I do not. So I don't enjoy that, but, but as the electronic chills genre, um, personally, like that's my go-to, I love that genre, um, artists like, uh, bonobo or think or Jonesy,
Seger, Ross, um, Seger, Ross, and Jen, we have many more lyrics in theirs. Um, but it's not always in English. So it's kind of like that like you're flirting with lyrics, but you know, like that idea a little bit, um, the vibe is similar, but I don't, it's just my favorite. My favorite go-to like the kind of like container music
if you will. Yeah, no, I'll definitely check it out, especially for the salon. Cause it's all, it is one on one it's very personal. Um, but we typically play like Adele or Sheryl Crow, those stations on Pandora because they are a little more chill there's lyrics, but nothing's rushing us and it's not too loud and it's not also putting us to sleep.
So I'm going to have to look further into that. Thank you. Uh, so what other, let's see, we've, we've gone over like what it is that you do and how we can improve corporate. Are there any other things that we need to know as entrepreneurs that would make a huge difference for us? What's a good question. It all kind of like the main thing that I,
that I had organized bringing, you know, in this conversation. Um, but I think, you know, another great way into making relationships too, is sometimes opening up dialogue on artists and music too. Um, so sometimes within the work that we do, um, it's a, it's a spectrum. So everything we're doing is music-based, but sometimes if I'm working with an individual who seems a more resistant or a little more standoffish,
um, I might just engage in just a general topic on music, um, because everybody connects to music at some level and there are hundreds of thousands of artists, historically music dates back to BC. So it's been something that's been integrated within our culture of being humans, since, you know, there's, there's also very, um, extreme fingers in regards to the whole big bang theory,
that thing, um, that he tempted and the dissonance of the tones is what caused the planet to collide. I had not heard of that one yet. So I mean, if you think about it, you can dive into incorporating music at any level. Um, but you know, that's, that's another, another thing may be to add into your, your play cards or what have you,
when you're building your relationships, um, is tapping into, you know, if you have shared music interests too. Yeah. It's connecting, it's being real tapping into those relationships and opening up. Um, and music is just a really easy way to start talking. Uh, and I love that you bring that up for us to start creating. Cause we all,
as entrepreneurs are trying to create relationships with multiple people, our clients, other entrepreneurs creating that building our business, our employees are, you know, you name it, we've got to create that. And I think it's just so valuable to learn that pick up and slow down and match your pace and how amazing that music really just brings that all together. And I am really excited to create my playlist.
Like I really am, and I love music, but I tend to always be on the go. So I'm always listening to a book, listening to a podcast or a class. I have to remind myself just like sitting down and reading something. That's not just for business, same thing with music. I need to just sometimes listen to music and not have all the other things go.
Absolutely well. And one thing I've been really tapping into lately, um, since the whole pandemic is using music to help me travel and the thought of that being there are certain songs that represent, um, certain times of my life or vacations that I've been on or are, um, kind of like what you were mentioning earlier where you hear a song and it has so many layers and memories.
So I always like to think of them as like these like little time capsules. So listening to songs that bring me like on an imaginative journey. So I'm able to take a little trip and go somewhere, even though physically I can't get to the Caribbean right now, or I can't get to, you know, Australia, but I have songs that to me represent being there.
So I've been tapping into those more frequently as of late so that I can feel a little bit of a journey and kind of taking myself out of the immediate, like four walls that I've been living in for the past five, four or five months, however long. Um, I know, um, what is it, I don't know, but fun way to kind of take a safe trip and to take your imagination and go somewhere and adding another layer to that because this is,
I manifest this way with visualization, right? Not so much while the music for me, I do a lot of like soft meditative music when I'm doing that. But if I want to go back to Dominican or wherever I've been playing that music and then really visualizing you be in there visualizing what, you know, things were around you, who you were with and then bringing in that layer of feeling like,
how did you feel when you walked into that hotel? Or you walked on the beach, bringing, feeling, listening to the song that brings you back to that, visualize it, like close your eyes and really see it playing out. You have got feeling energy music hearing, and then seeing it all play out. It can be a really wonderful journey,
especially now when we're not able to. Absolutely. And also when you're trying to manifest things like when you're trying to manifest something big, like that, put us out, I'm going to start putting a song. That means that represents that thing to me and put the song with the whole visualizing and Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Well, and it's, it's,
you know, it's how our brains are wired. And so I also have, um, made me think of another thing too, is I have music therapy, assisted childbirth practitioner, um, training. And part of that is for the expected mom to start listening to specific music ahead of time, because when you're in labor, the way that our brains organize music and retain our reaction to it kind of like Pavlov's law,
right? Ring the bell and the dog starts salivating, same idea with music. So, um, using music and, and organizing your responses to it so that when you listen to it, when you're not feeling the way you want to, you've already put in all that work to associate, this song is going to help me relax and be calm. So then our brain automatically thinks,
Oh, this is my relaxed and calm song. I'm not really, I know, but I'm supposed to be. And then eventually, you know, like eventually you can get to that place because of that association with the song. That's so wonderful. Oh my goodness. I could just sit and talk to you all day. This has been incredibly fascinating,
but I do try to keep it right around 45 minutes to an hour with, um, our listeners. And the good thing is, is you can always pause and come right back. So it is all good. We are here for you, but I do want them to know where can they follow you? Where can we find all of the goodness that you are doing in the world?
Absolutely. We would love, you can find this on Instagram. Ooh, excuse me. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Mellie music LA, or Mellie music, LLC. Um, and then we have our website, Melly music, llc.com. Fabulous. And I'm going to make it super easy for everyone like I do on all the shows in the show notes in the blog,
every single link is going to be there for you to follow me. I almost called you Molly. So Melanie is Melissa. Follow her and just see all the amazing things that she's doing. Tap into the music and tap into all of the great knowledge that she shared with you today. And then also, if you have anyone who needs Send,
And then her way, if you need this, if it's going to make you feel better and start moving past things in your life, she's doing, I mean, just wonderful. And I'm so blessed that you were able to be here today and share all of your beautiful knowledge with us. Um, and just thank you so much. Absolutely. And when one other really quick thing,
we have a bunch of free resources. We have free videos that we've recorded music and meditations and sing along some drumming, um, and kind of like grounded drumming activities. Um, and we have a bunch of websites that have free resources for all ages, a lot of kids resources, um, and then a bunch of other like PowerPoint presentations that we've done through the music and wellness series that I was doing as well.
So there's, there are a plethora of goods on our resource page. Fabulous. And what we'll try to do is take that, um, that's a direct link, make it easy for them and put it right on the blog too. I like to just put as many links as we can, so they don't have to think and they just click and go. So we'll do that.
But I just want to say again, thank you so much. Thank you to all of our listeners. I really hope that you've gotten some value from this and, um, that you go and check Melissa out. Thank you for having me. Thank you. All right. Don't forget to catch us on the next, um, podcast next week. Thank you so much for listening today.
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