From a Decade in Brick & Mortar to Online with Mary Sue

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Close down the shop and pack your bags, cause today is the start of the many days that we will be living our life to the fullest! We're gonna do what we want, what we feel, and what we're passionate about. As long as we do what we love, everything will follow. So join hands with me and let's leap of faith! We only live once, so let's start living this life!

With me in this episode is Mary Sue, a brave woman who leaped faith to do what she desires. She is a former award-winning lifestyle boutique owner turned farmer and online business owner who is deeply passionate about helping fellow creative entrepreneurial women express themselves and live life on their own terms. Mary Sue believes that whatever path you choose is the "right" one, you are always going where you need to be, enjoy the ride.

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From a Decade in Brick & Mortar to Online, here are the questions I got to ask:
How/why did you start your business? 
As I was closing my boutique I kept hearing women sign and say "Wow, that's so awesome. You're so brave. I wish I could do something like that". And I realized that so many of us never allow ourselves to pause and ask ourselves questions, often because we don't even know what to ask. We don't have the right tools in our toolbox. So, I decided to make my own!
What makes your business unique? 
It's very deep, it's very intense, but it's also filled with a lot of humor, a lot of fun things to learn or try out (like recipes, cocktails, crafts) and we are all HUGE dog lovers! That's kind of the thread that ties it all together is our love of pets.
What impact do you want to have in the world or change you want to see or make happen? 
Most of my life has been spent feeling like an outsider and feeling very misunderstood, so having space where women can gather like a drama-free girl gang and belong has been really important. I want them to feel like they are seen and heard.
Are You Happy with your business, What makes you happy And What Would You Change? 
I am! I love it, but after a year of online business, I am now feeling the itch to offer some physicality and creation with my hands or teaching others how to be creative with theirs. I have a very long, storied history within visual merchandising, styling, and display art so I will likely be exploring things in that direction while loving up on my current membership.
Did You Experience Failures? If So, What Did You Learn From Them 
I no longer look at failures the way I used to. The only failure I can see was spending so much time being a people pleaser and worried about being so likable.
How Did You Handle Adversity And Doubt? 
I am much better now but it used to be sincerely crippling for me. I had severe anxiety for most of my life but never really knew it until I started to do a lot of inner work. Learning that perfectionism was just a way to keep me from criticism was super healing
Do You Plan On Growing Your Business? How? 
At the moment I am content with the way it is, but will likely be offering more services geared toward brick and mortar businesses and helping them to establish a cohesive brand image and message so they can stand out.
Do you think self-love and trust are important in running a successful business? Why? 
What advice would you give someone interested in starting their own business? 
There is no perfect time. Ever. There is no endpoint, you and your ideas (and business) just keep growing, so get comfortable with that. Get acquainted with discomfort and know that it's there to serve a purpose- either to help you grow or to steer you in the direction you should be in. Whatever path you choose is the "right" one, you are always going where you need to be, enjoy the ride.
If you would rather read the interview, feel free to check out the full transcription below!
Welcome, everyone. Thank you so much for joining the intuitive light podcast for the enlightened entrepreneur. You're about to meet an amazing woman. Who's going to inspire you, just like she inspired me to live a free or a life free from negative emotions or fears so that you can start living the joyful life that you're meant to live well. We're here on the podcast so that you can untether yourself.

Stop being that stuck, you know, entrepreneur, where you feel lost and you need it support. I want you to become the untethered CEO that you're meant to be. And I have been just so blessed to have so many amazing people in my life. And that is what this whole podcast is about. Starting to learn, to love yourself, trust yourself,

and really live the life that you want to be or the life that you really want and deserve. So without further ado, I would love to introduce you to Mary Sue with the untethered life or unleashed life. Thanks so much. Yes. I'm so excited to have you on the show and we've known each other. I want to say it's been like two years since we started with Emily.

I think so. I think it's, yeah, it's been, it's been a while now. Time goes by so fast, but that's where we really met each other is Emily's errands group, which she's an amazing entrepreneur and I've learned so much from her and just the group of women that she has in her circle. Yeah. Everybody in there was just so incredible.

Yes. Yeah. And I don't know where you in a few other courses. I can't remember. There were a lot of courses that intertwined for me with Emily. Yeah, me too. I was in her business made simple, and then I'm also inside of her mastery and Ascension membership. Okay. So those are the two. Yes. Are wonderful.

And that's really where I got to learn about your amazing story and your background, which tell us a little bit about your background, what you had been doing, you know, how you got into what you're doing now, actually. Sure. Yeah. It's a, it's a long story. It all starts. I used to be an award-winning boutique owner.

I actually opened up during the last recession. So we opened up our store in 2010 and everybody thought that we were completely nuts, but we opened anyway. And it was up until last year. It's been almost a year now that I decided to close it because it was just, it got to the point where, you know, I, I really loved it.

I loved certain aspects of it, but it was also just really, really draining. And my heart just wasn't in it anymore. So I decided to close almost a year ago to the day today, things keep popping up on my Facebook feed, like memories. And this time last year I was publicly announcing that the store was closing. We were having a big sale.

So it's kind of fun to look back and see how far I've come in a year of going full-on brick and mortar to a full-on online business. So it all started with my store. That is, I, well, first off I love Facebook to remind us. And sometimes it reminds us and I'm like, I don't want to remember Those.

But then other times it is, it's one of those things that help us kind of, you know, remember where we been because I don't know about you, but do you take that time to really look back and see how far are you? Absolutely. Yeah. Especially with this one, because it's been such a huge transition when you are actually in it and you're doing the work.

You're just like, gosh, it just feels like I'm not getting any traction whatsoever. Like when is something going to just like take off and then you stop and you look and you realize how much you have actually accomplished. So it's really nice to kind of get yourself outside of it and see, wow, okay. Like, I really did actually make huge strides this year and just taking a moment to examine that and look at it can kind of bring it all full circle.

I love that because it's so important for us to see that because we, we are in the daily grind of things. We forget that we've done, you know, all of these things, because some of the things that we have to don't necessarily make those huge steps. It's those teeny tiny ones in between, but because you make so many of them,

you know, to make that one big step, it just doesn't sometimes look to the outside that you've done so much, but really it's such an accomplishment to get all those tiny things out of the way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. With you, I want to know, and I'm sure everybody wants to know, like, what was it that made you finally see or feel or whatever you want to call it,

that you had this successful brick, brick and mortar, and then all of a sudden you changed and you shift it and pivot it. What was that experience like for you? So our listeners can kind of, you know, connect and see, maybe they're feeling that right now. Yeah. It, it was several years in the making hindsight is always 2020,

but it kind of just started in very small ways, little small whispers. And I was just not picking up on them whatsoever. So it was just, you know, I started not wanting to go in every day or it just, it started to kind of feel a bit like a drag, even though there were aspects of it that I absolutely loved.

I loved my customers. I had some amazing, just super loyal customers. So it wasn't, it wasn't that, but it was just something that, you know, it was not really necessarily my passion anymore. And it was, there was very much an element of it that was just draining me and it wasn't necessarily lighting my fire anymore. And I know now a lot of that just has to do with the fact that I am so introverted,

that for me having to go in every day and essentially kind of be like on all the time was just like, so it just like, it took everything out of me. So by the time the weekend rolled around, I was starting to feel good again. I had a lot of energy and then I'd have to go back into it. And it was just like this vicious cycle of like,

it's sucking the life out of me, just the way that my brain works and then not having to go back into it and do it all over again. So it kind of started with these like small whispers and then it, you know, I wasn't listening to it and just kind of shoving it down and not paying attention to it. Like I've got things to do.

I've got goals I want to accomplish. I don't have time for this until it got to the point where I, really did have a full-blown mental breakdown. And I was just like really, really in a dark hole of depression for a very long time. And it was just, I felt like I was just kind of made to do a lot more than retail.

And I felt like selling things was just going against the grain of what I was meant to be doing. And I wasn't sure what that was. I didn't know what I was meant to be doing. And at the same time, my husband was kind of going through the same thing as I was, although it wasn't nearly as deep and dramatic as it.

And we just randomly one day decided we're going to move, we're going to move to a farm. And that's kind of when things started to pick up. So I was like, okay, I know something else out there. I don't know what it is. And we just started slowly inching towards that. And it wasn't until I took a trip to Iceland with my brother that I finally concluded that,

okay, it's time for me to close this chapter of my life. It's time to say goodbye to the boutique. And that was the first time that I actually really admitted it to myself. Like I don't enjoy this anymore. I feel like there's something else out there for me, even though I don't really know what that is or what that looks like.

I just know based on what I'm feeling inside, that there's something else out there. And that's just kinda how it all, it all started from there. So not knowing and, you know, getting those intuitive hits. But a lot of us don't really know how to even listen to them. Now I know that, especially with Emily's like we've really grown and expanded and learn how to listen to those.

But when you were starting to get those, did you, did you know that I know you didn't listen to them, but did you know that they were intuitive hits, or was it just kinda like, this is, you know, my ego talking or maybe at that time you didn't even know that's what it was. It's just kind of like, no,

I'm not giving up. Yeah. So Boys had a very strong intuition and I knew it wasn't intuitive, hit. I knew there was something to it that I should be listening to, but I kind of chose not to listen to it a bit cause I didn't like the answer. I knew what the answer was, the downside. It was like, you don't like doing this anymore.

You don't want to do it anymore. And there was a certain amount of guilt that came with that. Like how dare you not like doing something, which is probably a lot of people's dream out there. Like I wish I heard that all the time. Like I wish I could have a boutique. I wish I had a store that would be like my dream.

And then here I was, I had it. And I'm like, I don't, I don't like doing this. So for me, I had kind of, you know, this massive amount of guilt that came along with it where like, I should be happy doing this. Why aren't you happy? So having to admit it was like a whole other layer on top of it.

So I just kind of ignored it for a while until like legit. It legitimately could not That just gave me full-on chills. I'm sure there are so many people out there resonating because they're probably doing something successfully. That is everyone else's dream and may have been their dream at one point. But we start to push things down because of everyone else's thoughts and what they perceive us to have.

But if you're truly not happy on the inside at that time, it's okay to shift and pivot and to maybe have a new goal, but we don't allow ourselves that grace and that freedom. I'm saying, this was my goal. And I succeeded and now I feel my passions and a bigger need is wanted from me. But I, I just know that there's so many people out there and that same thing,

because you think about closing a business and it's usually closing because it's not successful, right. Not when it is successful that you change, but it's still okay to do that because you're supposed to be happy and it should not be draining. Entrepreneurship should not be draining. Absolutely. And another layer on top of that, speaking of, you know, outward success or what people thought of me,

you know, years before that I was thinking about, you know, ahead, I know there's going to be some point in time where I, I don't want to do this anymore. And the thought of closing the store and having people think she's probably closing because they're not doing well was something that I thought about. I was like, I don't want people to think like I'm unsuccessful and that's why I have to close.

So that was like another hurdle of getting over the judgment of somebody who I don't even know and may not have even shopped with me before. Wasn't my customer worried about what their opinions might be and you know, having to learn how to let go of all? That was just a huge, huge part of the transformation. And honestly, if I didn't go through all of that,

I don't think I would have been prepared to have an online business or even start because there's, there was a lot of pivoting, a lot of pivoting. Oh yeah. It's a completely different mindset. Yeah. Completely. And you know, I know because I have the brick and mortar, the salon running and everything, and I see exactly what you're saying now.

I want to keep the salon going, but I don't necessarily want to be behind the chair forever, but I have a different shift and pivot that I want to do, but taking everything online and doing the coaching, no matter how long I was in business with the salon, it's totally different. So you have to learn a whole new way of being,

and thinking and really allowing those stories to start to change and your perspective or perspective on your stories, on what you're doing, which takes so much will and power and guts, quite frankly. And it's like the scary, sticky work that nobody wants to do because it brings up all kinds of just uncomfortable feelings. And it feels really icky sometimes, but that's kind of where the magic is.

You have to walk through the mud to get whatever you want. That's on the other side of it, there's legitimately no other way, other than getting comfortable with feeling uncomfortable, Couldn't have said it better myself. You really do have to, because we all get stuck in those, those patterns. And to change it, nobody ever said the change was easy or uncomfortable,

but you felt install something completely different. Are you happy? Like looking back, you got a year under your belt. Are you happy with your decision? Like, have you learned anything in between there that you want to share with everyone? Oh my gosh. Yeah. It, the day I remember the day that I announced publicly that I was closing, was it,

there was like a weight lifted off of my shoulders. It was like, I was keeping this big dark secret and I didn't have to carry it around anymore. It was like a massive transformation and it's been a year and I still feel like, you know, I'm finally getting back to my normal self who is just kind of like fun and just very random and silly.

And I felt like I had to stuff all of that down, you know, talk about stories that you keep telling yourself. I had to rework all of these stories on how a, you know, the quote-unquote successful person looks and operates and comes into the world. And yeah, it's just, I don't even really recognize who that person was,

you know, 10 years ago, five years ago, two years ago. So it's just been, it was really hard work, but I knew that there was purpose in the pain. So that was the kind of thing that just kept me going. I'm like, I know this is setting me up for something. This feels like junk right now. But when I get through it,

when I figure, when I figure this out, whatever it's supposed to be, like, I know this is for a greater good, so glad I did it glad it's over. But yeah, it was just, you know, you just, you got to do it. If you're feeling it just, you know, run towards it, get it over with.

And how do you listen to those intuitive hits now? Like, do you have a certain method that you use to start centering yourself so that you can feel here and act on those intuitive hits now? Oh, let's see. So for me, it's a little bit different because I've always kind of had those intuitive thoughts and feelings for me. It usually comes up like I've been meditating a lot more.

So I have a bedtime meditation practice, which, you know, I do every single night. It not only helps to ground me, but it helps me fall asleep faster. I feel a lot more rested the next day. And it's just a great place for me to kind of go and center myself. But I've noticed that when I tune into my intuition and I actually lean into that,

they come up as just like these like really quick ideas. Like, Hey, like it just seems like it comes out of nowhere and I act on it, whatever it is, if it's like an idea for a business or a product or something, I'm very, what's the word I'm looking for. I'm having a brain for impulsive with it. So that actually works for me,

might not work for everybody else, but if I get that intense, intuitive hate as I run with it, I go and sometimes it turns into something, sometimes it doesn't, and learning how to take it and run with it has actually helped me in embracing the feeling of failure and that you're just kind of testing it and experimenting it. If it doesn't work,

if it doesn't take off, if people don't want to, it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with it. It's just, it's just not in the cards for you. So it's not a failure, but you probably learned something from it that you're going to need in the future. So that's kind of how I kind of approach it. I love that.

And I wish I could remember. I, I don't remember if it was Marie Forleo, somebody I listened to and they were like, you know, it's okay that you are impulsive and that you run with the ideas and that, you know, on the outside, people see it as being impulsive because that's how I am. I don't have fears of failure.

I will get an idea. And I'm like, boom, that's it. And before I know it, I have it up. And everybody's like, what the heck are you doing now? What I'm like, Hey, this is what I feel. It feels right to me. And then the second it doesn't feel right. I'm okay with just being like,

okay, I need to just let it go. I mean, there's been plenty of the things. Maybe not because it was a failure, maybe it was, but maybe it just didn't take off or whatever, but being impulsive, it looks like that on the outside. But I really believe that it's just, I trust myself. And if I have an idea that won't leave me alone,

it might not. I mean, cause I get a lot of ideas and I don't always act on all of them. Right. Something that keeps coming back up or, you know, I, I believe in, you know, the universe and the intuitive hits that we get. And sometimes those ideas will come up in multiple different ways and I'm like,

okay, all right, I'm I get it. I'm going to do it. Yeah. And outside people look at it and say, it's impulsive and you didn't think about it or don't you need to research that more. I'm like, no, I mean, I need to research how to do it. I don't know how to do it, but you get stuck in research.

I like, once You get used to following those and putting it out there, it becomes like no big deal. You don't get stuck. That's where I was before in just research mode and it's gotta be perfect. And when you wait for that, you're just kind of, I think it's coming from a place of, you're trying to shield yourself from rejection and failure and criticism,

but those things don't really even matter in the longterm, the more you get used to it, the more you put it out there, the easier that this all becomes. And like you said, there's really no, there's no failure at that point. It's just tried it for whatever reason didn't work. Didn't feel good. Yep. And you just keep moving because I learned something,

whether it's something that I just needed to change or add to a different business or whatever order that I just don't need to be in that space. We just keep moving. That also comes with, I feel like once you start changing those stories and your perception around what others think of view, you start really loving and trusting yourself, and then it doesn't matter.

What other people, how do you, I mean, you've always been intuitive, but how do you really start loving yourself? How do you go about it? That's a good question for me. It has always been about how it goes. It goes back to inner work. Like just figuring out what you want honoring it and just being in the process.

It's I, it's very hard to articulate, but it's just giving yourself the grace and the space to try things. Don't put any sort of metrics on it at first, just do things out of sheer passion and love and just wanting to help people. And in return, you kind of get so much, you know, creativity and self-assurance, self-love back in it because you're putting yourself into situations where you don't know how things are going to be.

You don't know how you're going to react or how other people are going to react. And yet you're still showing up and you're doing it anyway. It just, the amount of like trust that you have to have in yourself just keeps growing and you're like, dang, I can do this. This is amazing. So those tiny little steps that we talked about before being able to accomplish those and seeing those tiny steps coming together to make a bigger step,

you start seeing that and seeing that you can accomplish this and you start trusting yourself a little bit more. And I find like I've recorded. This is actually where the podcast came from. Am I just, I love talking to people and I have so many amazing women entrepreneurs, friends that I felt like their story needed to be shared and that people needed to see that there are so many women out there who will be there to support you.

And who's been through the processor, or going through the processor at different stages, but we can all gather together and support and just care for each other and learn from each other. That's kind of where I got a lot of my love and trust for myself is because I saw that there were other people out there doing it. And I'm like,

you know, you may be further ahead than me or further behind, but if we all kind of come together, instead of looking at this as competition, we start to really love who we are on the inside because I'm, I'm doing this strictly because I want people to hear this. And I'm so passionate about it. We'll see when it comes to like,

again, this was, you know, kept coming up and, you know, nagging at me and I'm like, all right, let's do it. And then we were blessed with all this time and I'm like, okay, so here we go, recording, go with it. But I know that you have a good community around you. And do you feel like that that's helped you a lot?

Yes, absolutely. Because I was always, you know, under the impression that you got to go it alone, that you've, you know, there's no other way to be successful unless you've done it all yourself, which is a complete and total lie. And there are parties in, in, in particular women who are going to support you and view this as a community.

It's not a competition and surrounds yourself with them, find it. And if you can't find it, then make it because it's so helpful. Not only for you as an individual, but for other people too, if you can show up and help somebody else, who's, you know, whatever expertise that you have and help some, but the else achieves something that you've been in their space before.

I mean, that feels real, real good. And I feel like, especially in the online space, it takes a certain type of individual to put yourself out there. And once you've gotten over the initial hurdle of what are people gonna say? What if nobody likes it? What if I publicly fall on my face and fail, what's going to happen. Once you get over that hurdle and you see other people who are struggling with it,

like you, you've got some love for them and you want to help them out. And it's just the feeling of community and togetherness that is just so incredible. It's, it's, it's awesome. It's, it's amazing. And I know that you've created a community and you have people because you have to like, I have a community as well, but before I had my community,

I know that just being a salon owner is very cutthroat, very cutthroat. And you think about it and you, you know, I always wanted to be like talking and help support, but there are people in my industry who are like, not talking to you, you're going to steal all my secrets. That's okay, too. If you are in the position,

anyone watching this, if you're in the position where you do not have people who support you, whether it's in your industry or even around you, I promise, reach out to one of us. We will help you find a community. There are so many communities that will support you and that it is not cutthroat. You will be faced to put, you know,

be around those people because we can't, you know, get rid of all of them. Or sometimes we don't even know that they're like that. But I promise that if you just do it from your heart and you really are just trying to build up the community, those people aren't going to leave you alone. And they just kind of disappear on their own because they don't want that support.

They want it to be cutthroat. So if you are struggling to find a community I'm here to help you. I'm sure Mary's here to help you reach out to one of us because I know that it, it made a world of change in my life, knowing that I could get support and just people to understand, you know, just somebody I can talk to and say today sucked or today was amazing.

And then they celebrate and they timed you. So there's, there is that community out there. I promise. And I know I've asked questions in my community before, like, do you have that support? And if you don't, we're here for you. Yeah. It's so important. And I, I think even more so just having people to celebrate with is so important.

Especially if you're a business owner and none of your other friends or family or business owners feel really lonely and nobody gets it. And there are so many things that you take personally, and you want somebody to bounce an idea of like, is this just me being overly sensitive about this? Or is this something legitimately to feel kind of off and icky about that's an important group of people to have around?

Oh, for sure. I'm with your friends and family, they can't be that support. They can be whole different support. I mean, my family supports me in a completely different way, but I can not get that type of communication or understanding from them because they're not business owners. I mean, they're like shut down the computer. It's, you know,

it's the weekend. It's like, turn everything off. You deserve time off. And I'm like, you, you know that this Works that way. Sometimes It doesn't work that way. And I also so passionate about what I'm doing, that is not at all. Yeah. So I have to divide that because I know in the beginning for me,

I looked to my friends and family and asked for support like that and I didn't get it. So I felt alone. And I had to see that that's not what they were there for and not have hard feelings against them because they weren't trying to do it maliciously. They just told me. And how could they, if you don't own a business or you never have,

you have no idea what a business owner might need for support, no clue. So you can't put it on them. If they don't, they don't know any better. They don't, they don't know what they don't know Exactly. So just give yourself that grace and find a community, be there, you know, to support others. And it's like a full circle.

So when we've got this community, you've started listening to your intuition. You're really setting yourself up. Now you've completely changed your goals and you have this brand new business. Tell us all about what is it that you're doing? Well, I created, because we were talking about community and how important that is. It is an online membership and it is just kind of a place for a creative pet,

loving women, because not only do creatives have people who don't quite understand them but when you are really in love with your dog or your pets and other people are like, what, what do you mean? So it's this really fantastic community of women who, you know, they're creative, they love their pets, and they really want to learn how to live life on purpose.

Because when I was closing my store and you know, ultimately women were asking me, okay, what are you doing? What's next? What are you up to? I would, you know, I would tell them about my farm and things that were going on there. And I would tell them, I've got this idea for an online business and their response over and over was,

Oh my gosh, that's amazing. I looked, I could do something like that, but like, I wouldn't know where to begin. I don't know what my passions are anymore. So, you know, the fact that I kept hearing that over and over, like, I don't know what I'm passionate about anymore. I, you know, it just felt like the spark had left so many people that I was like,

I'm going to use all of the tools that I had used to pick myself out of my dark hole and I'm going to teach other people how to do the same. So it's, you know, we've got a core content filled with like all of the really deep work, the inner work. And then there's also a really fun component to it, to where every month we've got,

you know, things that we're going to be making or cocktails I put together, it's called the life on purpose list. And there are about six to 10 items every single month that is meant to get you to get out and experience new things, try new things. And you know, just really embrace how to live your life on purpose and discover what a good life on your own terms is going to be.

Because what my good life means to me could be totally different than yours. And they're both valid. They're both needed, but getting to a place where you can feel comfortable with saying like, no, this is how I am. This is how I want to live. My life is really, really freeing. And a lot of people don't have access to how to even begin to start that conversation with themselves.

So that's, that's where it all started and unleashed life is now in its six months. So it's going great. I love that. I think it is so beautiful that you are teaching women because really it is that spark. And when that spark has gone out, because especially as women and mothers, you know, we got to take care of everything else.

Even if you're not a mom, like there's just so much put on us that we've, we lose who we are and what we really want. So diving in deep and really finding what your passion is, is so important. And you need guidance through it. If you don't know how to get through it, don't try to do it alone. You need guidance and you need a community.

And that goes right back to finding that community. And I think it's absolutely wonderful what you're doing. And I'm so happy to have had you on the show to really talk to people and tell them, you know, that it's okay, what other tips or whatever you want to share with our viewers to like help them move on or the next step. I would say that if it's resonating with you,

it's resonating for a reason. And to dive into it, kind of dissect it, and don't be afraid of what the answer might be, because I can guarantee you it's a lot scarier and it's a lot more difficult to live a life that feels unhappy, but also kind of comfortable and familiar. It will get to a point. I know for a fact that it's,

you either have the opportunity to look at it, do the really uncomfortable work, and choose to move forward, or life's going to kind of do it for you. And that can, can, that can show up in a variety of different ways. For me, it was having a breakdown for other people. They might get very sick or, you know,

I don't know something else might happen, but take the opportunity and choose it for yourself. It's going to be a lot easier and whatever is on the other side of it is going to be way cooler and so much more fun than you could ever possibly imagine. So don't, don't fear. It just like lean into it because there is a purpose to whatever you're feeling.

Just, go for it. And I love that you brought up that, life is going to happen or it's going to happen to you. So if you choose on your own terms because it happened to me, I had to go through a really, really at the time, this was back in 2007, as a whole long story, but my husband lost his job.

We ended up having to lose our house and completely move. I was comfortable there. I was not living my passion. I was not living a life that I was supposed to and I had to do. I mean, I was forced to change and move like completely different towns. Nothing could better happen to me. It was necessary. I couldn't see it at the time.

I didn't have, you know, all the skills that I do now with being able to be very centered and know that things are happening for me instead of to me. But don't let it happen to you make the decision. And I did a podcast with Jenny Barton and it was all about leaping. It's taking that leap and knowing that the universe is going to put the net down for you are not going to fall flat on your face.

You will be supported and it will teach you something just to get you further. Or it may be this entirely new passion that you could not have ever, ever seen. And I just, I think it's so important that you said to not allow it to just happen to you, take control. And it, it feels so empowering to actually flip the script and be like,

no, this is even when it feels really bad and awful. And you're like, why would I choose this? Well, you can choose how you want to show up that day. You can choose your thoughts that you're thinking you can choose the way that you're treating other people. Those are all choices that you actually have control over everything else. If you feel like you have control over your life,

it's just like a complete illusion. So choose to like, have control over certain aspects of it and say, I'm going to make the best out of whatever. And that is the choice every single day. And it is it's difficult some days, but it is like, I've never been happier having done all the work and being like, you know what?

I don't know what's going on with the world right now, but you know what I'm going to choose to be in the moment every day and just live life and find the silver lining in everything. Yeah. And right now, because it is during the COVID-19 lockdown and this whole pandemic, everybody's worried, well, we don't know what's going to happen. Well,

before this happened, we still didn't know what was going to happen. We had no control over it. As you said, it's an illusion. We don't have any control. The only thing we have control over is how we perceive the things that are happening to us are happening around us and being able to take those things and find the silver lining and see where we can shift the perception that we have to something positive.

That's going to help push us in the right direction. Instead of pulling us back, we're all going to have those days just that's life. But it's how fast can you change your perception of what's happening around you? And that's been a huge lesson for me, And it's an important one too. And it makes a huge difference because once you can kind of maintain that homeostasis in your own brain,

it's like you kind of become unsinkable to a certain degree, that things that would have rattled your bones last year, maybe six months ago are like not even a blip on the radar. You just keep elevating it. And you're like, I can handle all kinds of stuff. This is no, this is all right. Yep. And the second you get thrown a curveball,

you just flow and go with the flow and you don't get hit. You're just, you change with ease because you can see that you can just look at it a different way, even though it's really horrible stuff that's happening now. I mean, I know that it's hard when everybody's being so affected, but I am a brick and mortar business and an online business.

I know it's affecting me too. My salon is closed. I can't cut hair online. My staff cannot cut hair online, but I'm choosing to take this time to look at it differently. What can I do to be there, to support my clients in a different way that I couldn't have six months ago? You know you didn't think about that.

So it really, even in the hard stuff, you can continue to elevate and not get buckled down. Amen. It can be hard, but just change your perspective on it. And I, I think just everything you're doing is wonderful. I really want to thank you again, just for being here and sharing your wonderful story with everyone, make sure every anyone who's watching to follow her,

check-in on everything. I'm going to post all of her, how to find her really easy on the blog. And if you need anything else, I'm sure myself or Mary will be there for you. And I am just so blessed to have so many amazing women in my life. So thank you again. And Yeah, I'm, I'm going to leave with what you said.

If you have any sort of questions or anything, reach out to me, reach out to any of us and we are more than happy to help you because this is very much community over competition. And always, always, always happy to help in whatever way, larger, small than I can. Beautiful. Well, thank you again, and thank you everyone for watching and being a part of the show.

Have a great day.