3 Steps to Feel Renewed & Re-Ignited again, even in uncertain times with Cassandra Punita James

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Stress is a part of life. It is inevitable and we cannot get rid of it, we encounter it through our daily lives and sometimes it breaks us. But it's doesn't always have to be this way, because the truth is with the right tools we can manage it and some stress is even good for us! Can you believe that?

Talking about stress and how we should deal with it is Cassandra Punita James. Her journey is a whirlwind! She is a semi-nomadic adventurer & eternal optimist. Her passion is to help people who want to make a difference in the world, to clear inner obstacles and their path, master the art of renewing themselves and finding clarity and courage so they can live a fulfilled life, and make a big difference in the world they dream of.

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I love helping multi-skilled conscious people (35-50) who are on a journey to make a difference in the world, to clear inner obstacles in their path, master the art of renewing themselves, and finding clarity and courage so they can live a fulfilled life, and make the big difference in the world they dream of.
Did You Experience Failures? If So, What Did You Learn From Them 
My journey included sailing through a typhoon, living in countries where I didn't know the language, learning meditation in ashrams, 18 years as an AcuEnergetics practitioner, and founding and running much-varied businesses’ - and through all these, I was constantly searching for the deeper meaning in life, for freedom from past limiting thoughts and building courage.
How Did You Handle Stress? 

Not all stress is bad for you. Short term stress stretches and grows us. – so master a few ways to calm during long term challenging situations, and it changes too many acute stress situations = good for you.

What are the things you would like to share with us that would be beneficial to everyone watching?

I will share 3 ways to calm your body during long-term stress situations so can gain short-term benefits. You will feel calmer, more secure inside, so allowing energy to flow up to your brain, so your mind can work calmer and clearer again.


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Trusting your intuition will lead you to create a passionate and joy-filled life. Are you ready to get turned on to a new way of thinking? Are you ready to meet people who have conversations that speak to the things that truly light you up? What if you had access to a podcast that featured women, just like you, who shared stories that empowered you to let go of a lifetime,

to others' expectations and to start living in the now with passion and joy, I'm Jacqueline Rodriguez, founder of your intuitive light coaching owner of enlightened styles, holistic salon, and your host of the intuitive light podcast for the enlightened entrepreneur. My goal is to help women recognize how tightly they are tied to negative thoughts and other people's expectations so that they can fully embrace and become the untethered CEO.

They've always wanted to be. You're about to meet some amazing women who will inspire you to untether yourself from any fears, the negativity that you carry, and become the untethered CEO of your life. This podcast is for you woman champion, warrior, entrepreneur, mother phenomena. Hello everyone. And welcome back to your intuitive light podcast and show. I am your hostess,

Jacqueline Rodriguez. And I have got a really special guest here today, and she is coming all the way from England with us today. Her name is Cassandra James. She is a semi-nomadic adventure, an internal optimist, and the founder of the courageous way. And we're going to be talking all about the three steps to feel renewed and reignited again, even though these uncertain times.

So I can't wait for you to meet her and get to hear more about her story and all of the amazing things that she's doing. So let's welcome, Cassandra. Hi. Hi. Jacquelyn great to see you. Great to see you again as well. Thank you so much for being here on the show today. We've got the meet through TRIBE I want to say,

right. And we both were in it and doing our thing and, you know, we got to a chance to meet really amazing women throughout all of the TRIBE and through our own journeys. And we instantly connected and I would love to hear all about you. Where did you like how'd you get started? How did you co-found the courageous and just tell me all about you?

Sure. That sounds great. So as you can probably tell from my accent I'm Australian and that I, as a child, I started my family started traveling when I was very young and I basically never looked back. So I'm, I'm an ex-pat. I live in the UK and normally in the time of pre-vet covert, I would be traveling. I spent part of the year in Provence and Bali and Australia and around Europe.

So well there's is traveling and traveling. When I was young, I sort of, I began looking for how to find my center in the middle of a sort of what seemed like a chaotic world. Then it's become more chaotic. And, and I went on a long journey looking for that. And then I began sharing it with it. I worked with one on one,

one to one with clients for 20 years before that, I founded several different companies in all sorts of fields and learned about that. And then I've set up a membership where it's called the courageous way, and it's really working with people so that they can, they can find that in a renewal, they can find easy tips, ways to get grounded,

have heavy energy, have the resources feel good in themselves. And then so much more. It can be possible because I love the inner journey and I love business. And I love sharing in the world and making a difference. So for me, helping peoples to make a difference in the world in a way that doesn't exhaust them and burn them out and really tap into.

So it's from their heart, from their natural genius and they have all their energy behind them. This, I find the turtle joy. And so this is my, this my membership. And I also do one to one work with people in private retreats where they want deep healing and deep or deep career shifts at a cellular level. Yeah. And that's why we connect it so well because a lot of your mission and my mission,

there's a lot of interchanging pieces and we want the same things for people. And this is the beauty of other women entrepreneurs being able to come together and work together to help support and lift everyone and, you know, fill all of the gaps to start making people whole, to start making people really look in internally for what they want to do, but then have that support all around them and be very heartfelt about all of the things that you're doing and that I'm doing.

And we just really have some amazing missions, which is why I love having you on the show, having these conversations because more and more people need to start looking inward right now. After all, as we know, this is at the time of the recording, we're still in the midst of COVID and it's all kind of like going on the second wave, depending on where,

where we are in the world, but there's still a lot of chaos and more than we've ever seen. So as an entrepreneur who was trying to stay afloat or trying to take care of different things like families being at home, you know, now a lot of people are flip-flops instead of going all around, they're having to stay at home more and finding that internal peace,

finding that quiet place where we can in the midst of chaos still be okay and thrive and continue forward. I think just your messaging is so important around that. And how do you help people start doing that? A lot of what I do is really about reconnecting with the body because we come into this earth for this life for a journey in a body and with the,

you know, it's like, but you know that with ideas and excitement and digital, the whole digital world and the way our society runs, it's very mind oriented and the mind has its place. But if the body becomes ungrounded and threatened, this is then basically we can't think as well. It's very like I'd describe it. As in energetically, our,

our body flips back into how it was when we were, you know, early, early man, early hominid. I was an archeologist in my first training and it's very much like our ancestors and us. We have a lot in common so that it's like our body goes into the primal reaction in a time of stress. And it's very, it's like, we're in the cave and it's not the safe idea to leave the cave.

Cause there's something that's going to eat you. So your flight, yeah. It's a fight. The fight-flight and freeze. And the freeze is the big one that people don't always talk about because that's what at the beginning of covert, a lot of people were going into the phrase that just like, how do I do with this? I'll just watch Netflix for a few months.

There was a point where I had to come back out of it or just doing things, but doing it slowly and finding that you didn't have the resources. And it was like the mental resources and there's energetical. There's a, there's a channel in the body that makes a big difference, which is the base of our body, like below our physical body,

around the buttocks. And below that is the, is the area that connects to the earth. And if we get scared, if the fight-flight and freeze response gets triggered, that area contracts, and when that does, it literally stops energy, running up an energetic channel, just off the spine to the brain. And therefore our brains, we get brain freeze.

Well, it's like, we can't think as clearly, we can't see things with perspective. We can't necessarily come up with new ideas and we then go on to the adrenaline of running on adrenaline. So it's happened to all of us and we've all done it at different times in our life, but you want it to happen for short times and where it's actually like a short time,

stress is actually beneficial for the body and boosts our immune system and boosts our brain and boosts our memory, but longterm stress and this is longterm. This is, it does all the opposite. Undermines. The immune system undermines our brain and our clarity goes and it just, and the, our heart gets stressed and blood pressure is just the list goes on.

Yeah. And all of that energetic blockage, having your root blocked off from your crown chakra and not having that energetic flow, actually. I mean, if, for anyone who doesn't understand, like when we have that stress on our energy and we're blocked Physical and we Start getting that's when all Other pieces that come into that, And we're long, we're just blocked because we're not we're frozen or we're scared,

but we actually start bringing on the sicknesses and we start bringing on so much more where our body starts giving out as well as our energy field. So it's incredibly important to keep that energetic line open and flowing even through stressful times because it can help us stay healthier and it can help our bodies not go Into the shock of it all. Yeah, absolutely.

And so this is what I've I work with me, with the membership one-to-one clients. It's very much how, what tools can we use to, I mean, it's easy with one-to-one because I'm treating them that most of us, that's not like we can't meet each other. And so we're, we're spread around the world. So there are tools and understandings that we can use where we can do things.

And they're not really complicated often. It's just which ones. And it's like going okay. If I made that a priority then and gave it a few minutes of the time of my day, maybe to move things around in the order that I do things or live my life. If I can breathe again, it will all become so much easier. And some of the physical things don't turn up that can come from our bodies being under a lot of stress.

Cause yeah, the body doesn't like the contraction and attention and the stress of it. And just running on, on energy, which then disturbs sleep, which is a big topic I help people with as well. Yeah. Tell us a little bit more because you have a, it's a book, right? Or like It's a little guide it's super, it's like less than,

it's like a seven-minute read. It's super easy and lots of pictures. Searching very easy Getting an hour back of sleep. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. It's about how to get an extra hour of sleep. Each night now can be more than one hour, but it's also that thing of having an hour of good sleep versus tossing and turning sleep or half a week's lethal stress sleep or the sleep where you wake up and you just don't feel great afterward.

And it's, I've been like talking to people and watching it in the news sleep has become so disturbed for a lot of people because it's natural where our body's in stress, we're wired. We're like, we don't know, we can't plan. How can we, how can we plan forward? Like before we might've been, you know, the future still could be variable,

but we thought we could plan. And it would almost, you know, there was a reasonable prediction and now there isn't, so we don't know what's coming. And with that stress more and more people's sleep is disturbed. And there are key things about understanding the rhythm of when we need to sleep in the Chinese mapped it. And they said that every two hours is governed by a certain organ and it makes a clock and the clock,

the picture of the yin, you know, the two little can pulse once the day energy and once the nighttime energy now in the West, cause we've got into digital devices and they keep us up later and we love excitement. We often, or it's, you know, movies and looks, even in the days before digital devices, I used to stay awake late at night before I knew about this and I'd stay up till 12.

And one, because I love the energy when everybody else went to sleep and I was in Sydney on the Harbor and it was just like, it's quiet, but I'm here and I'm enjoying it. Then I discovered that between 11 and one and really starting from a sort of 10 o'clock, it's the energy. It's the time when your body's energy for the next day.

And so what we get as a second wind. So if we're awake at that time, we're like, yay. This is especially if we've got we're an entrepreneur or in business. And we've got, you know, if we work with someone else, it's like, yeah, I do my best work at that time. But we do it at the price of our health.

I am an idol. I always have been, even like you said before, digital-like I just instinctively do have my second wind. I can be tired, tired, tired. And I go, you know, get the kids situated and, you know, pre COBIT, we weren't even getting home from football practice and gymnastics and everything until almost nine o'clock and then you're still,

you're eating late, then you're getting ready and it would be like, I'm tired slowing down. And then all of a sudden I'd have this whole second energy and, you know, try to go to sleep. But that's actually, when my mind was the best where I could, you know, get stuff done and have that peace energy, but it's not good for us.

I had to learn how to turn it around. And it was like, okay. And what we have to do is sort of do something quite radical and just go, when you start feeling tired earlier in the evening between, you know, it looked, I was sort of going, okay, the F you know, ran tan or something like that.

And then I was talking with a friend of mine. Who's also in this work, in this field and he was going, he said, look, if I'm really tired, I'll be going to sleep at night. I'm going, wow, that's really radical. Well, after I went through the Bush fires in Australia, I was helping my parents escape those.

And so everybody was incredibly stressed and grief-has stricken from all the loss. You know, it had such a huge effect on our bodies and everything. So after that, I was just, I was just like, okay, I, and I listened to that first tiredness and not, I did this before, but they did it more extremely this year. And it was like,

okay, I went to sleep at nine o'clock or nine 30, and it seems really radical because then you also want to eat your meal a couple of hours before, so you've got time to digest it. So the digest, you're happy. So the whole thing's like, okay, but then what happens is you've had a really good night's sleep by five in the morning.

And then my best work happens and it always has happened, but it's sort of like have slowly changed over the years. It's, it's early in the morning and that's when I'm most creative. And then when you do it that way, the body is the body we're working on the body's time. We're not fighting it. And the next day we will build up and have so much more energy after,

you know, it takes a little while to recover that if you listen in to the body might be one night, that'd be Gately actually, I feel really good. And then I'm up until 10 30, but then it's like, okay, but that fades out and you want to be asleep by 11. Okay. So what do we do If,

I mean, now we don't have the football games and we don't have all that because we are, you know, things are still more shut down. But when you have something where like, I may be getting tired at nine o'clock, but I still have to go pick up my son. We still have to go, you know, you have things that are scheduled that we can't really get out.

Yeah. Well, if you think about it that you might go look out four to five nights a week. It's absolutely my body's time. And I'd be trying to only have a couple of super late nights. Think about it. Like as your weekend nights, your party nights, you might want to do work, but if you do a work project that the brain gets so busy,

it's really hard to cause to sleep. We have to drop into the physical body. We have to drop into the right brain. We have to drop into the cool body. It's like walking, dropping into the yin from the yang. And if we're doing a lot of work and we're really active where it's so not compatible with sleep, the work thing.

And look, if I'm like, I had something on and last night and I was actually working on a web, the page design up until eight 30 and then I absolutely relaxed. And, and then I was fine, but I was doing it very consciously in. I hardly ever would do it. Normally I'd finished work before and sometimes life happens and you gotta be late.

And then you can always have a nap in the middle. If you can get a nap, even if it's like 10 or 15 minutes between 11 and one-ish in the day that actually then helps restore sleep better in the evening. Okay. I always felt like if I did that, that I would be, I'm able to say like, but then that's obvious.

Yeah, you might have half an hour, but you don't want to go longer. If you go longer, you go into a different sleep cycle, and then it's harder. That is the hard part. Cause that's what was happening. I would sleep for like an hour, an hour and a half. And then I'm wide. Yeah. That's too long. Keep it,

keep it shorter. If it's shorter. I love the idea of this because you see a lot of people saying, you know, that you've got to wake up early and that you should be doing most of your work, but there wasn't this energetic exchange and the way you presented it and said how, And then gang and how to, To start dropping into that.

I feel like it's a, it's a different way of looking at it. Especially for someone like me, where I thought that I was, you know, that was just my normal cycle. And morning times for me, I'm dragging, like I'm just not super awake. It takes me a while to wake up. We'll play with it and see if your system,

how it feels with it because it's, I've always been a morning person. So I, but I've had to, as an adult learner that I actually had to actually give my body enough sleep and some people need more sleep. And so you have to listen to how many hours you need, but the morning is amazing. And yet a lot of people also do their best work.

First thing in the morning, the Buddhist talk about the best time to meditate four in the morning. So I'll wake up and I'll meditate for a while and then I will start writing or doing things like that. That's wonderful. I like to meditate first thing in the morning, too. Perfect. My morning meditation, where it may be short, sometimes it's longer,

but I do like to do my first and I'm still laying in bed, I think halfway asleep still, but I'm able to like, just be peaceful and bring things back to center before I start my day. Yeah. Perfect. And so in this little guide, I also have a couple of steps to just help slow the body down so that you can go to sleep because that often wakes up in the night. After all, lots are going on to be able to go back to sleep again.

Cause it happens to everybody at some time and sleeps the fuel. It's the fuel for fueling our life, that out, you know, all the things that we love and for our work and our businesses, it's like an, our downtime and our socializing and, and it's, it's what I consider the first step. And so it's like, okay,

if we're getting enough sleep, then everything else is, is working. Okay. Everything else is going to give us it. It's going to work. And basically, with that energy flowing up the spine, we then have a clear mind. And then it's like the things that if we didn't have enough sleep, they might take us two, three times as long.

Or we just might never come up with them in a Yeah, because you're blocking it from being able to flow and that energy does have to flow. And I like what you had said about it being the key foundation. And that's how we recover, recover, clear our minds, and then gain the energy. So especially now when we are home more and we are in more control of our schedules,

cause we're not going out until nine o'clock at night, you know, during the week, this is a great time to start gaining control of your sleep habits so that when it is time, you know, open And everything's going back to normal-ish, we'll see what normal looks like. Yeah, absolutely. But when we do, then we've created new habits.

So this is a huge thing that I would like to work on is getting my sleep schedule a little bit better. And my husband, it's funny because he actually is, he works in sleep and he hooks people up for sleep apnea. And so he watches people sleeping and he tells me, it's like, Jacquelyn, you need to go to sleep earlier.

You need more sleep. And I'm like, I know babe, but I'm duh, you know, just, I have this to have some practical reasons why. Yeah. For me, it's always like, ah, that's the if I've got the logic behind it, that really helps for me. And yeah. So he's a wise man.

Listen to him. Yeah. Well, okay Jason, you get this one ready? Only this one. No, no, he'll be so happy to hear you say that he does try to get me, but then what's funny is on the other edge of the coin is he does not sleep very well because he's up all night and his internal clock is completely flip.

Flopped was that thing as luck. It's really what you're saying is so true. This for so many people, the pausing and staying home in this time of covert and locked down in its various forms has given us a chance to go, okay, what feels right for me? What and how am I taking care of myself? And people don't have travel time.

They're not traveling to work. It's like if you think that before you had 15 minutes, half an hour, an hour to assets, some people had crazy amounts of commuting time and that's not. So it's like, that's a gift of time. So rather than losing it, think how could you give yourself a present with it? What would you love to do?

What would your body also love you to do and have a conversation? Because if we stop and we listen in, it's like, okay, well I could exercise. And I like doing it in the morning or I like doing the evening or take a break at lunchtime. You know, I have some people that I've worked with who are like, they like that.

I mean, I always meditate in the morning. They're like, I can't do it. It just doesn't matter if I'm working from home, but lunchtime. Fantastic. So we'll, you have to find the rhythm that suits you, but you used a free body, but with this, this is an opportunity. This is a pause and really stop and stop and renew and really go,

okay, what's actually true for me. Now, a lot of people Are questioning how they're working, what they are even working in. I'm opening up this, they're having time with their kids and their pets and their garden. This is the positive side of an incredibly difficult and challenging situation. So it's a great one to take up. Yeah. And to just go,

okay, what, and start small and smart with one thing. Gut overload. Yeah. But that has been what I've kind of been trying to, well, what would I have been saying? And like in all the coaching and all the podcasts we've been bringing out while this is a very difficult, challenging time, not taking anything away from that because we do need support and people need time to grieve and to adjust.

And you know, they are going through extremely stressful things, but we can pull the positive out of it because no matter what's going on in life, there is something that we can take from it that will help us in the future and help change things. So like you said, its people are not having the commute. That's a beautiful gift. People are having more time at home with their kids.

People are having more realization on, maybe I'm not crazy about what I do and how can I change that and how can I love my life and be centered more. So with each little piece, if you just take one thing at a time and you start focusing on what do you want to do and start adding that into the gift of time that we've been given.

I think it will help so much. And I'm very hopeful because in normal circumstances, we're all too busy and we're going so fast that we can't slow down and we can't focus on those things. Yeah, it's, it's absolutely an and you know, it's like we have to look for something that is giving us a gift or growth or something from it. And this is,

this is one of those long intense situations, and this a different type of courage that I work with. People finding courage in their life. And there's courage for the intense, short, extreme things that acute situations that we can go through. And that's a really different sort from the one sort of courage that we need for these long ones in a way we sort of also need to break it out.

So why do things That can really like really help your body to relax so key and nourishing it, nurturing it, giving it a renewed, a renewal space, whatever that is for you? And I can suggest some later on, and then it's not one continuous, you know, chronic stress, which has really debilitating effects. And it becomes short little intense stress when we choose to do something or when we don't choose,

but we have that thrust on us, But they, that it's like, there's a gift That comes from that. There was, I went through, would you like me to share a story from when I went through a super typhoon and when I was in my early twenties and it was an extreme acute stress situation, but I learned so much from it and it's flowed on and it's affected me since.

Cause I think this stuff that we're all learning at the moment and sometimes it's slow learning and sometimes it's like, Oh my gosh, we get like sudden flash and hopefully it will help us. It will help the people we help. It will, you know, the world will come out of benefits, some nature in this really challenging time. I agree.

Yeah. I'd love to hear it. Did you want to tell the story? Yeah, sure. Because it was, for me, it was, it was you'd call it an acute situation, except that it was quite a long acute one in the sense that basic I was sailing on a wooden yacht from Singapore to Hawaii and I was crewing on the yacht and I was 22 and I hadn't been to see before I'd been on that boat.

So it was all a new adventure. And I was like, Oh, that looks like a great adventure. I'll take that one. And I just started traveling on my own after leaving university and basically were at sea. And we had really good equipment on the boat for, for that time for navigating. And we had a sat nav and we could see what the weather was coming.

And basically, we went through the, what they call typhoon alley South of Japan. And this super typhoon came bearing down. It was meant to miss us and then change direction came right over the top and we watched it build-up and it was one of the situations we're in, it's a bit like now where you can see something building and you can't get out of the way,

you know, like the train crashes happening and all you can do is go, okay, how can I prep will fast. It was preparing the boat and getting it ready and tying everything down and dropping little big sales. And, and, but in life, it's like, how do we prepare? How do we prepare ourselves and finding those tools? So then basically the storm built and the waves and the waves got up to that 60 foot,

which was above the mask of, we were lucky that they weren't a rolling surf. Okay. They were huge like chop, but when we ever, we went up to the top of a wave, the boat, be blown on its side. And then we dropped down into the trough and then she'd come up. Right. And so we were walking on the walls basically of the boat and the winds were 150 knots.

And then it hit the top of the wind, the automative where you measure the wind. And that was it. We, we, it just, it was bruising our skin with the spray if we went outside and he couldn't stand. And, and so it was really super intense and it was some situations where I was just like, Oh my God,

my heart raced faster and faster. And I like it, I'm going to have a heart attack. And I discovered that that sort of stress doesn't actually, well, it didn't for me. I didn't have heart attacks. It was like, okay, I got through that. So it's one of those things where I kept watching myself going through what, like massive,

what I thought would be my limit. We went through the eye of the storm. It was worse on the other side. And eventually, the waves started dropping down. And then the next day the waves are dropped down to about 50 feet and maybe it was even 40. And the wind was down to about 60 knots, which previously would have been like totally extreme.

And because I'd been through that, it was like, Oh, this is a breeze. And the phone suddenly began surfing down these waves. And suddenly I felt like I was back. I was in control. I could actually stay at work. We couldn't stay before we would just add the mercy of the wind. And that's a really big thing with,

with courage and with handling stress is if we feel that we've actually got some, say some control of the situation. So if we could find something, it's like, if we can find our center, if we go, okay, I'm going to stop. I'm gonna sit and close my eyes and take a couple of deep breaths and just drop in. Okay.

We can control that. If it's chaotic outside, I can like to put my hands on. That can feel my body. It's like, I can do this thing. It's like, we come back to what we can do at that point. And then with we've gone through something really extreme and it comes down a bit less to something that before you would have thought was way too much.

It comes into the lesson suddenly. It's like, Hey, I've gone through the other. And now this is easy. So that is just each like at the moment, if we can do things to nourish ourselves and to go, okay, try and get sort of asleep, try and do some things for joy. Trying not to watch the news all the time.

It's never going to be possible. Yeah. So, but it's like, okay, but some people and in some businesses and things, here we go, okay. I need to watch it once in a while, but ration it and try and be selective because it won't make your body feel very safe because that's nature. That's their business. So most definitely.

Yeah. So just coming back down and so what I CA, but I got out of it at the end, this thing of like, wow, courage. It's like each time we step up, we're going to have, we, we go through it's, it's like, you know if we step up and somebody steps up and they're in their business and they speak to a bigger audience,

or they do something new or they relate to the new way, or they step out socially do something different every time it's going to be a stretch, it's going to bring challenges. But then every time that one's like, and I mastered it yes. And then we can breathe out. Yeah. And you can go through. And like you said, I mean that

that story was so powerful. And I'm so glad that you shared it with us because seeing, when you go through the eye of the storm and weather for people out there, if they've gone through that, or if this is their first eye of the storm, for them, you can make it through these things. And then everything else behind that is much easier.

And I had a similar, not anything like that, but just going through my life and having my ups and downs, I had a certain peak where I didn't think I'd be able to make it through a certain time in my life and being able to go through that, make it out, survive alive, everything going through this. Now it's not as bad because you learn things could be worse than that.

You've made it through worse. And that you've, you are way more powerful than you give yourself credit for. Yeah. And so much more resilient in it. And so much more strength. And that's why I was like, Oh, my buddy survived this. And this is so much the case. People, you know, do all sorts of bungee jumping and shooting,

which I tried parachuting and everything. I, those young like pushing the boundaries, but it's when we do. And then we go, Oh my gosh. Or I did, you know, I did a Facebook live or I, you know, I launched a business and I, you know, put myself out there in a different way in the world.

I spoke, my truth was someone, each time we're stretching this. And each time it's like, our heart expands, our courage expands, which lives in the heart. And if, yeah, then the next time it comes into. Cause it's like, say what you when you went through that to find that you could handle this easier, that's amazing.

So that's such a strength to have built. Yeah. And it's so true for, like you said, for everything. Each time we go live, each time we start a business, start a new position, have a child buy a house. Like all of these first for us can build more and more courage. And what it does is expands that comfort zone for us.

So we get to be more expansive and more thoughtful and more connected to who we really want to be. And then we can handle the the the ups and downs and we can handle the things that are going to be thrown at us because no matter how centered we are, life happens and things do get thrown at us and obstacles and things are out of our control.

Even though before we might've thought we were in control, we truly never are a hundred percent in control. Anything can happen at any time, but when we're able to get through these and together, get through even more than the power on the other end of that is, is truly life-changing. Yeah. There was a real thing. When I came out of the,

off the boat, I was like, okay, wow. I really like to face such fear and disgust. And I was like, but at this point I realized, I actually had to find out more about like inner stillness and actually learning how to trust. Whereas before I'd really been into control a lot, and then it was learning like, actually one wonder you can't control the world,

but you can select, but it's how we approach it. And control comes when there's stress. So the more we're at ease, then we can, we do things from a really different place in ourselves. So then I went and learned about, and sort of decluttering some of my most North stuff I was carrying and learning about meditation and that thing it's like,

I'm sure many of the people who listened to this will have practice some mindfulness or done meditation. Now they're a little bit, or, but it's like every meditation can be as simple as stopping, closing your eyes. What I call a nano meditation, taking a breath dropping in and feeling your body and just go, Oh, hello. And it's dropping back into the moment.

And just, it's like, because then we're here. And then at this moment, when we're looking around this moment, two, usually not the end of the world, this moment is usually not, you know, there might, it might be extreme, but it often isn't, and there are mind projects forward and backward, and we're so clever as humans.

Cause we can do that. But we also panic ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. And you haven't liked it when you came out of the storm, you said that that's when you want it to start trusting more. And that's when you found meditation. Same with my situation where I had gone through a really struggled time, didn't think that I would be able to,

and I didn't like who I had become that's when at that peak, once I got out of it and I could see just a little bit clearer, that's when I realized that I needed more trust and that the meditation and learning to trust myself was the key. Everything after that has been so much easier because we go with the flow versus constantly trying to control every Avenue.

Yeah. And the office not coming from our wiser self it's coming from a place of fear. And it's actually, there's actually a pattern that it flows through in the old, in the body. Cause there are several different organs involved, but it comes where we like, okay, there's fear. And therefore it's like, okay, I better jump in and starts getting control of this.

But we can't, if we can, if we do it with, if we got, okay, I'm going to trust and then I will choose, it's still, we're still taking action. We're going to take action from a clearer space and a more at ease space and vehicle, a lot more of our natural wisdom and all the things we know will be available for us versus if we're feeling stressed.

But it's really interesting when you talk about that time for you because there are major chain periods of change in our lives and at certain ages, and I studied astrology as well to study this because 28, 29 is a big one where a lot of people will take on more responsibility and, or let something go and become, you know, have it lighter.

But the biggest one is from mid, the late thirties to mid-forties. And it's when a whole album people's career changed. And mine changed at that time. So it's like, I took everything that I had learned before. And this is what happens for us all. And then we redefine it or we just tweak it a little and it's true and we're sharing something more powerful.

And yet in that time, there can be challenges where it can be like the worst of years and the most loss and the most, because anytime that we're letting something go, we have to let go the surety and the security of something sometimes and sit in limbo and the unknowing for something beyond something bigger within us to come to light. Oh, most definitely.

And you don't realize what's in you until you start releasing control. Then, the moment I trust it, that things were happening for me is the moment that my life changed. And we're looking back at this like 10, 11 years ago. And the, you know, it took time to learn how to release and to not have to one have that,

have that control. That is one of the things that was the hardest for me because I was very much in control of my life. And if you can't see me and you're just listening, like I've got my air quotes up because I wasn't in control. That was like, kind of, it was all fear-based. But the moment I truly released control and trust it within myself,

it was everything started happening and working for me. And then, these major things happening in the world didn't affect me the way it would have in the past. So it's not an easy thing to do. And I'm sure you can attest to that as well to release control is not easy, but it is very doable and it's life-changing. And that is one of the beauties of being,

you know, having this podcast, being able to show other people who have been there can help others through that. I do the same thing. We're all helping others through those times and learning how to go inward release a little bit more control every day and be courageous and step into our power. And that is what is so beautiful that we can do this across the world and you know,

really tap into such powerful energies. And I'm just so grateful. You've been on the show and we're, we're gonna wrap up because I want to be mindful of time, but please let us know where we can follow you, how we can get into all that you're doing. Cause I know that you also have a virtual retreat coming up soon and I would love for everyone to hear about that.

Great. I'm so excited about this. So the retreat is it's, it's the post of what we're in the middle of. That's what inspired me to start creating it. And it's such intense times and it's dragging. It's like, okay, I can do this for three months, but now, it's like nine months and it's going to be longer.

And there's a lot of like deflated down. Our mojos got lost and wandered off. And it's like, so I've created our retreat, which has stuck from the fourth to the 8th of November. It's virtual and it's free. So this is one of the pluses of COVID is the amazing things. And people are starting to be available all around the world. So I have some great guest speakers who are coming in to run masterclasses as well as ones that I'll be sharing.

And it's called reset renew. And re-ignite cause it's that thing of stopping, just making some small shifts and renewing, finding your zest, finding it like it's that taking care inside so that you can do more outside so that you can find the inner and outer successful action and basically get your mojo, get your energy, feel good, have a little time for you.

And it's only taking up an hour to an hour and a half a day. So it's something you can fit in around the rest of your life easily. Hopefully, there'll be recordings and there'll be a link below, but I'd love. I'd love you to come. And I'd love you to bring a friend because if you do something like this with a friend,

you get twice as much out of it. So it's so lovely to share. There'll be breakout rooms. There'll be lots of fun. There's going to be a meditation on the beach in central pay. There's going to be yoga and Scotland. An amazing woman is talking from Brazil about how to sort of the core thing is to get your life back into balance and work.

And I'll be talking about decluttering the mind and on building energy and just the ways that can easily and lightly just make everything so much easier for you and fire you up for the next three months. And then there'll be visioning and planning for the next period of time at the end of the retreat. Beautiful. Oh, beautiful. Well, everything is going to be linked below.

So that for all your view are the viewers. You can just visit the blog. All the links are going to be there. And if you're catching this after November, don't worry because we both always have amazing things going on. So you can always just follow Cassandra, follow the path that she's on. And I'm sure she'll have all kinds of other goodies in the works for that.

So I appreciate you being here, sharing your story and your knowledge, and just your beautiful energy on the show. Thank you. Jacquelyn, it's been a joy talking with you and sharing with you, and hearing some of your stories as well. Just Exploring this prophet. So many of us are walking and you know, people everybody's experienced different things and we all share the part that we've experienced and we're exploring with.

So if people want an easy link, if you can just look me up on Cassandra who needs to James on Facebook otherwise, but Jacquelyn said the links are there and good luck on your journey and at this time, and keep making time and space for you so that this can be not just all the challenges now, but somehow it can be grown and you can grow and feel okay in the middle of it all.

Yes. And just like you said, you're worth it. It's you are worth taking time for yourself and reevaluating the things that are not working for you. Cause if anything that we're in control of is what you choose to spend your time on, spend it wisely, spend it, you know, re-evaluating and taking time for yourself so that you can grow and expand and make this time a better time in your life versus all the doom and gloom that's happening around us.

That is what we're in control of. So thank you so much, make sure that you go to the blog, check out all the links. And then we also have some amazing news coming up from, from me. I am launching a new subscription box and it is all surrounded by rituals to take care of yourself, to start co-creating the life that you want to start releasing the negative energy blocks and the mental patterns that we have.

So keep your ears open for that. You'll see it all on the blog. You're going to see things coming up on social media, but just keep an open mind and think about what types of tools and rituals would help you start creating those patterns in your life. So thank you so much. Thank you for coming to another week with us and we will catch you next week.

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